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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:53 pm

To me there is no such thing as a "good" or "bad" VA - there are VAs I like and VAs I don't like. If I don't like the voice of a character there's a big chance that I'll also dislike the character itself. So basically - it depends on people's opinions.
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Difference between a good actor and bad actor; A good example of bad acting would be DC Douglas as Wesker in UC and RE5. An example of good acting would be a VA who sounds genuine and "real", like Alyson Court as Claire.
My opinion is the opposite - I like DC Douglas as Wesker's VA,but I'm very fond of Alyson Court,because when she screams or shows more "feminine" emotions(as crying for example) her voice sounds too squeaky for my taste. That also reminded me of Ashley and made things even worst.  Razz 
Do note: I'm not saying that one VA is better that the other - I just enjoyed one of them more and that made him a "good" voice actor to me.
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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Thu Jan 16, 2014 1:57 pm

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well i don't understand how anyone and everyone can judge the difference between a good actor and a bad actor, whether it's a game, cartoon or film

Because anyone and everyone has the right to an opinion, and because acting quality is subjective? All it really comes down to is "I do/don't like that performance." If someone says an actor is bad, all they're saying is that they don't think the actor did a good job in the roles they've seen.

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i know you all treat a japanese game as an anime, but you also treat an english game as an A-movie film
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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Thu Jan 16, 2014 2:19 pm

The talent of an actor/voice actor is completely subjective. For most people, it's based on how believable their performance is. The term "good actor/voice actor" refers to an actor being able to make their character seem like a real person and not just fake character and a voice actor reading lines. That's why Naughty Dog is so praised for their characters in Uncharted and The Last Of Us. The voice actors do a phenomenal job at really making the characters seem genuine and real.

Basically, like everyone else has mentioned, it boils down to your own opinion.
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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Thu Jan 16, 2014 5:46 pm

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well i'm saying it isn't

there's no reason when you're in the middle of a cutscene to just come out and say: wow! this acting is great (or) this is the worst acting ever
And when you become lord of the galaxy, that might matter to me. Until then, I couldn't care less what you do or don't approve.

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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Thu Jan 16, 2014 6:38 pm

Why is this a thread? No no...why is this a thread AND in Resident Evil Discussion?
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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Thu Jan 16, 2014 11:05 pm

Yeah, this really belongs in Off Topic.

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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Fri Jan 17, 2014 4:24 am

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i know you all treat a japanese game as an anime, but you also treat an english game as an A-movie film

What? How does that even... What?



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i know you all treat a japanese game as an anime, but you also treat an english game as an A-movie film
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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Sun Feb 02, 2014 8:03 am

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and that's what i don't get

for as long as you make any form of media to go public, it's guaranteed to get negative feedback from someone, whether they are just saying it to be annoying or it's in depth criticism
Precisely what are you getting at? Are people not allowed to like or dislike something when it contradicts the majority opinion?

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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Sun Feb 02, 2014 11:57 am

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no, you can say what you want, but i don't get why i have to listen to it

you expect every game to be like an A-movie, and if the voice cast is like a B-movie, you give it negative feedback

statistically the odds of me getting away from critics are 100,000,000 to 1, i don't want it in my yahoo search results!

furthermore, people have said "this shit sucks" to every resident evil game just to be annoying

that isn't opinion, it's trolling!

I really don't understand any of this thread, your point is incoherent and confusing.
So let me get this straight, you hate that people have negative and or constructive opinions towards something that you yourself enjoyed ?
Welcome to the real world kid, not everything is candy and rainbows, everyone has different and therefore harbor different opinions.
So what you're actually trying to create is a very hypocritical system, in where only your opinion matters and others are simply labelled as wrong or "trolling".]
Please leave your ego at the door, take a good hard look at what your saying and how contradictive and hypocritical it really is and simple grow up.
Opinions are subjective, your entitled to your own, just like everyone's entitled theirs.
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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Sun Feb 02, 2014 1:39 pm

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no, you can say what you want, but i don't get why i have to listen to it

you expect every game to be like an A-movie, and if the voice cast is like a B-movie, you give it negative feedback

statistically the odds of me getting away from critics are 100,000,000 to 1, i don't want it in my yahoo search results!

furthermore, people have said "this shit sucks" to every resident evil game just to be annoying

that isn't opinion, it's trolling!
Statistically the odds of pleasing everyone are equally low because everyone has different preferences and expectations. If you go and read people's opinions, some of them are bound to be negative. If you don't want to listen to it, then don't, but don't expect yahoo to censor their opinions for you.

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Everyone's a critic.

and that's what i don't get

for as long as you make any form of media to go public, it's guaranteed to get negative feedback from someone, whether they are just saying it to be annoying or it's in depth criticism

I'm not seeing what's so hard to get. Nearly every RE game has sold over a million copies. Are you surprised that a portion of people out of that million doesn't like it?

Are you also surprised when someone doesn't have the same favorite color as you? I like red, but I keep meeting people who tell me they prefer blue. I don't get it, how can they not think red is the best color?
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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Sun Feb 02, 2014 7:48 pm

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no, you can say what you want, but i don't get why i have to listen to it
No one is telling you to listen to it. I myself don't listen to critics or others' (well, most others') opinions.

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No, I don't, and no, I don't. I expect high-profile games like Grand Theft Auto and Metal Gear Solid to be like A-movies, sure, but not every game. I give a game negative feedback when I feel its cons outweigh its pros. For example, I don't like RE4, but the voice acting isn't among my list of reasons for doing so.

And just FYI, I like B-movies, especially horror. Hell, the B-list is the best place for horror these days, since Hollywood can't seem to get it right anymore.

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statistically the odds of me getting away from critics are 100,000,000 to 1, i don't want it in my yahoo search results!

furthermore, people have said "this shit sucks" to every resident evil game just to be annoying

that isn't opinion, it's trolling!

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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Mon Feb 03, 2014 3:48 am

A bad actor? One that fails in every department, and doesn't even try for campy. The kind of actor that just emotionlessly reads lines and maybe performs only a few stunts over the green screen.

(Yeah, Milla Jovovich is pretty bad)
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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:42 pm

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no, you can say what you want, but i don't get why i have to listen to it

you expect every game to be like an A-movie, and if the voice cast is like a B-movie, you give it negative feedback

statistically the odds of me getting away from critics are 100,000,000 to 1, i don't want it in my yahoo search results!

furthermore, people have said "this shit sucks" to every resident evil game just to be annoying

that isn't opinion, it's trolling!

I really don't understand any of this thread, your point is incoherent and confusing.
So let me get this straight, you hate that people have negative and or constructive opinions towards something that you yourself enjoyed ?
Welcome to the real world kid, not everything is candy and rainbows, everyone has different and therefore harbor different opinions.  
So what you're actually trying to create is a very hypocritical system, in where only your opinion matters and others are simply labelled as wrong or "trolling".]
Please leave your ego at the door, take a good hard look at what your saying and how contradictive and hypocritical it really is and simple grow up.
Opinions are subjective, your entitled to your own, just like everyone's entitled theirs.  

but to call someone a fuckin loser because they don't share the same views as you, that IS trolling

as a matter of fact, should you upload to youtube, no matter what you upload, you are guaranteed to be trolled sooner or later

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A bad actor? One that fails in every department, and doesn't even try for campy. The kind of actor that just emotionlessly reads lines and maybe performs only a few stunts over the green screen.

(Yeah, Milla Jovovich is pretty bad)

surely an actor from a game, cartoon, or film can be no different from your own youtube upload of yourself talking

I can 1-up Milla because I can do impressions. Good impressions, too. You wanna see my troll impression?
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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:11 pm

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but to call someone a fuckin loser because they don't share the same views as you, that IS trolling

as a matter of fact, should you upload to youtube, no matter what you upload, you are guaranteed to be trolled sooner or later

What has YouTube got to do with anything ?
Critique is critique, no matter what medium it's from.
Furthermore you're making a huge generalizing of the whole matter and blowing it up to be bigger than it is.
If someone likes something, then they will like it.
If someone doesn't like it then they wont, but either side can give an honest opinion of how they feel towards something.
Whether it be a civil comment or otherwise.
That's just life, you can't take others views so seriously and you have to take the internet with a pinch of salt, there is a lot of hate out their.
If you are so concerned about said "trolling" then just leave them (if they are actually generally trolling), if you react and get all giddy over their "trolling" then
that means they have gained a victory over you because they do it for attention or to piss you off, so if you get mad or even simply try to strike up debate with them then
they have won, in their own little sad way.
Although I only say this towards genuine "trolling", you can't drastically label someone that has the opposite opinion of yours a "troll" even if that person is writing
a hate filled or anger fueled review, as this person isn't trolling but merely angered and unhappy with whatever it is he/she is writing about.
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PostSubject: Re: the difference between a good actor and a bad actor    Wed Feb 05, 2014 3:13 am

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but to call someone a fuckin loser because they don't share the same views as you, that IS trolling
There will always be people like that. You just have to let it go in one ear and out the other. The Internet makes it easy for people to do and say things that in real life they'd wouldn't have the guts to, or get their asses beat if they did.

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as a matter of fact, should you upload to youtube, no matter what you upload, you are guaranteed to be trolled sooner or later
Like we've been saying, this is the Internet we're talking about.

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surely an actor from a game, cartoon, or film can be no different from your own youtube upload of yourself talking
It depends on what he's talking about. If he's expressing his thoughts on something like Apartheid or the Macedonia naming dispute, then it's quite different. Another difference is it's unlikely he would get paid an obscene amount of money for talking on YouTube regardless of what he's talking about.

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